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Thursday, October 09, 2008
Presenting from SANS Webcast on Logging , Security and Virtualization
Wednesday, October 08, 2008
REALLY Cool Presentation: "Grand Challenges" of Log Management
The presentation is also embedded below:
Enjoy!
POPE Rules!
My fave piece: "But ultimately I fancy myself to be a builder and [his new job] gives me the opportunity to build a strong strategy and marketing function." Amen to that! Even though Mike can be a "talker" too, not only a "builder."
Read it!
More on "Helping With Compliance" vs "Selling Using Compliance"
Did he say "it is vendor's role to 'sell stuff' using PCI." God no! He said that vendors will make PCI "bearable" for end-users. A big difference ...
Yes, PCI DSS is "a driver" for vendors to sell security tools AND "a sledgehammer" for end-users to "motivate" their bosses into releasing budget, but the reality is that PCI DSS compliance is a non-trivial challenge for many organizations, and that they need HELP more than they need "being sold to."
And help is on its way...
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Saturday, October 04, 2008
Presentation from SANS 2008 Lunch and Learn in Las Vegas
This presentation can also be considered a sequel to my "Choosing a Log Management Approach" presentation, which was my previous SANS Lunch and Learn preso.
If you are involved / about to be involved with logging, read both (first, second)!
It is also embedded below:
Possibly related material:
- All my presentation on Slideshare.
Friday, October 03, 2008
Just A Thought on Compliance
Get it?
A Few Fun Bits, While I Am Preparing for My Speech at SANS
- Love, love, love this piece :-) Remember the "robotic gun rampage" stories from last year? How does this sound: "The gun can track 360 degress, but there is a software-driven safety zone that makes sure rounds don't blow the rotors off. If the Osprey has to maneuver away from the target and the crew chief can't hold the gun on the bad guys manually, the system slaves the gun to the point of the last shot, slewing it as the plane moves." (watch the fun video there too)
- "Security idiot" meme lives on - go here. BTW, the post is a follow-up to this
- A fun follow-up to my post on compliance approaches titled Is PCI DSS "Too Prescriptive"?
- Finally, my fave post: "Increase Your Logging." I am sooooo happy that logging evangelism is spreading far and wide! A quote from the paper: ”Logs are interesting, logs are fun, logs should be done by EVERYONE…..get to logging!!!” (I promise that specific case was not my quote, even though I do say that very thing all the time!)
Thursday, October 02, 2008
Fun Reading on Security - 8
Instead of my usual "blogging frenzy" machine gun blast of short posts, I will just combine them into my new blog series "Fun Reading on Security." Here is an issue #7, dated October 2nd, 2008.
- Great paper that complements the whole "SIEM is dead?" saga - "Most enterprises are looking for a product that will solve all of their problems in some sort of off-the-shelf miracle, and when they find out that the currently available tools can't do it, they either postpone their deployment or put them on the back burner. "
- "The Mess: looking for someone to blame?" is an awesome piece on Internet security and its architecture - and so is Gunnar's follow-up ("If a tree falls in someone else's silo...")
- Mike call to "Rise up against Mediocrity." - "Dilbert makes the risk of the lowest common denominator approach abundantly clear."; in other words, you say 'best practices', I say 'mediocrity!' Mike also remind us, in vain, to do "Security FIRST!" (and compliance second)
- A great piece from Burton: "On Response" - I think the world needs another 10-20 million reminders that PREVENTION FAILS. This is definitely a good one for those still in the "we'll just block the threat world" - "we will not win a continuing war of escalation" and "using response can be more cost effective than installing the latest and greatest preventative tool"
- More on metrics, including the highly-awaited ISO27004.
- Pretty dumb paper by a person confused by why PCI DSS exists (the guy needs to read this). PCI doesn't "fall short," it helps people who will otherwise not do anything and their systems will "power" those botnets of the future...
- While we are on this subject: a really good coverage of PCI 1.2. changes, released Oct 1st. More PCI fun here. And more here ("PCI Compliance - dispelling some common myths"). And, more PCI myths. And more good ideas on PCI from Mike R. Sorry, can't stop thinking about PCI :-) - also this is good.
- Adrian on behavioral monitoring; mostly in DAM, but also elsewhere in security.
- "Premature Chasm-Crossing" - a must-read for all security vendors and especially their marketing (and their easily-excitable PR teams...) - "Shouldn't vendors be spending more time fighting the problems that security managers are facing today, right this minute?" (Mike R also comments on that). A related - and just as interesting point is made here: "Security is not a solution"
- More on compliance and security checklists, good and bad: "I think this is a dangerous trend unless the "checklist" is all inclusive." (how can a checklist include ALL? :-))
- "SANS Top 7 New IR/Forensic Trends In 2008"
- Read "The three approaches to computer security!" Why? Come on, it is from Joanna! :-)
- A fun discussion about a hot new technology: network IDS. Is IDS absolutely indispensable to ALL companies? No. Can it be incredibly useful? You bet. End of discussion.
- On an unrelated note, are lasers the future of warfare? Some say no.
- Finally, some security humor from Gartner (!): "Get Rich Quick With Network Security"
Enjoy!
Wednesday, October 01, 2008
Monthly Blog Round-Up - September 2008
As we all know, blogs are a bit "stateless" and a lot of good content gets lost since many people, sadly, only pay attention to what they see today. These monthly round-ups is an attempt to remind people of useful content from the past month!
So, here is my next monthly "Security Warrior" blog round-up of top 5 popular posts and topics.
- Shockingly, AGAIN this month, the "Top 11 Reasons to Secure and Protect Your Logs" came up as #1 most popular post (maybe driven by my poll). BTW, see my other logging polls.
- Security ROI - and its parent topic "security metrics"/"measuring security" - is definitely an ongoing HOT debate. Indeed, the old post "Security ROI Pile-Up!" takes the #2 spot this month, possibly propelled by a more recent post "Second ROI War."
- Some say that "short blog posts rule", but, in reality, good, fun content is the best. Here is an example: "Dumb Luck IS a Strategy!" post makes the top list. In it, I try to explore why people still ignore security concerns even if stare people in the face...
- Discussion on what you can do to soften the impact of "getting 0wned" ( "What CAN You Do?") made the top list. Good!
- As before, my post "11 Signs That Your SIEM Is A Dog or "Raffy, You Killed SIM!"". It is both humorous and sadly true (and backed up by other sources)
- Still burning hot is a post with my irreverent comments on a Terry Childs saga. Namely, "On Doomsaying (Terry Childs case)", "So ... Am I? Maybe I Am!" and "Admins , Good Guys or "I am NOT an Idiot!""
See you in October.
Possibly related posts / past monthly popular blog round-ups:
- Monthly Blog Round-Up - August 2008
- Monthly Blog Round-Up - July 2008
- Monthly Blog Round-Up - June 2008
- Monthly Blog Round-Up - May 2008
- Monthly Blog Round-Up - April 2008
- Monthly Blog Round-Up - March 2008
- Monthly Blog Round-Up - February 2008
- Monthly Blog Round-Up - January 2008
- Monthly Blog Round-Up - December 2007
- Monthly Blog Round-Up - November 2007
- Monthly Blog Round-Up - October 2007
- Monthly Blog Round-Up - September 2007
- Monthly Blog Round-Up - August 2007
Dedicated to All PMs Out There
"You Might be a PM if…
· … someone asks about your weekend plans and your answer consists of a list of Pri ones, twos, and threes.
· … you’ve ever ended a relationship using a PowerPoint presentation."
(more)
Really Good Point From Schneier ...
To fix this, airport security has to make a choice. If something is dangerous, treat it as dangerous and treat anyone who tries to bring it on as potentially dangerous. If it's not dangerous, then stop trying to keep it off airplanes. Trying to have it both ways just distracts the screeners from actually making us safer."
Doesn't it just make sense?!
Security + Logging + Virtualization Podcast
It is actually a fun read / listen, if you are into either/all of these three :-)
Here is the brief blurb on that from the podcaster site: "To help learn about new ways that systems log tools and analysis are aiding the ramp-up to virtualization use, I [Dana Gardner] recently spoke with Charu Chaubal, senior architect for technical marketing, at VMware; Chris Hoff, chief security architect at Unisys, and Dr. Anton Chuvakin, chief logging evangelist and a security expert at LogLogic."
My Lunch Presentation at SANS Network Security 2008
Here is the announcement:
LogLogic Lunch and Learn Presentation
'Worst Practices' of Log ManagementSpeaker: Dr. Anton Chuvakin, GCIH, GCFA
Friday, October 3rd, 2008 * 12:30pm - 1:15 pm
BTW, I am arriving Thursday night, so if anybody wants to meet and "talk logs," please drop me an email.
UPDATE: presentation is posted here.
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Monday, September 29, 2008
Fun Presentation from Recent ISSA e-Conference
The presentation is also embedded below:
Enjoy!
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Friday, September 26, 2008
Presentation from GOVCERT.NL 2008: Log Forensics
So, I am releasing one of my favorite presentations, the one on log forensics, in its newest expanded form: "Logs for Incident Response and Forensics: Key Issues for GOVCERT.NL 2008"
Here it is also embedded below:
Enjoy!
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Monday, September 22, 2008
Is PCI DSS "Too Prescriptive"?
I did this fun panel on PCI compliance at SecureWorld Bay Area the other week. What is interesting is that almost every time there is a discussion about PCI DSS, somebody crawls out of the woodwork and utters the following: "PCI is too prescriptive!", as if it is a bad thing (e.g. I mentioned it before here)
I used to react to this with "Are you stupid?! PCI being prescriptive is the best thing since sliced cake :-) Finally, there is some specific guidance for people to follow and be more secure!" BTW, in many cases end users who have to comply with PCI DSS still think it is "too fuzzy" and "not specific enough" (e.g. see "MUST-DO Logging for PCI"); and they basically ask for "a compliance TODO list." (also see this and especially this on compliance checklists)
But every time it happens, I can't stop but think - why do people even utter such utter heresy? :-) And you know what? I think I got it!
When people say "PCI is too prescriptive," they actually mean that it engenders "checklist mentality" and leads to following the letter of the mandate blindly, without thinking about WHY it was put in place (to protect cardholder data, share risk/responsibility, etc). For example, it says "use a firewall" and so they deploy a shiny firewall with a simple "ALLOW ALL<->ALL" rule (an obvious exaggeration - but you get the point!) Or they have a firewall with a default password unchanged... In addition, the proponents of "PCI is too prescriptive" tend to think that fuzzier guidance (and, especially, prescribing the desired end state AND not the tools to be installed) will lead to people actually thinking about the best way to do it.
So the choices are:
- Mandate the tools (e.g. "must use a firewall") - and risk "checklist mentality", resulting in BOTH insecurity and "false sense" of security.
- Mandate the results (e.g. "must be secure") - and risk people saying "eh, but I dunno how" - and then not acting at all, again leading to insecurity.
Take your poison now?! Isn't compliance fun? What is the practical solution to this? I personally would take the pill #1 over pill #2 (and that is why I like PCI that much), but with some pause to think, for sure. I think organizations with less mature security programs will benefit at least a bit from #1, while those with more mature programs might "enjoy" #2 more...
BTW, this post was originally called "Isn't Compliance Fun?!" I had a few fierce debates with some friends and all of them piled on me to convince me that "compliance is boring, while security is fun!" The above does illustrate that there are worthy and exciting intellectual challenges in the domain of regulatory compliance. It is not [only] a domain of minimalists (who just "want the auditor to go away") and mediocrity, as some think. What makes security fun - the people aspect, the ever-changing threat landscape, cool technology, high uncertainty, even risk - also apply to compliance ...
So, need a cool marketing slogan BUT hate "making compliance easy"? Go for "Making Compliance Fun!" :-)
All posts on PCI - some are fun:-)
Thursday, September 18, 2008
Dumb Luck IS a Strategy!
While still at GOVCERT.NL, I've attended a fun little presentation, describing a penetration test (I cannot provide any more details as it was a "No Press" presentation - this post is not about it, but rather was inspired by it!)
In any case, if you do pentests, think about all the RECENT cases where you break in to a major corporation through:
- a Solaris system with Internet-exposed telnet with a guessable password OR a telnet vulnerability (circa 1994!)
- an exposed VPN appliance with a manufacturer's administrator password
- a router with default "enable" password
- or, something else entirely - but something that rivals the above example in its unparalleled, unbelievable, abysmal, deep idiocy.
Indeed, many of my pentesting friends still report plenty of such cases (one was also featured in the presentation mentioned above). Whenever I hear about it from a pentester, I always ask:
Do you think "somebody bad" had already passed through the hole you just discovered?
Maybe an hour ago, a day ago - or a year ago?!
I cannot see how the answer can be "no."
Even though pentesters usually don't focus on forensics (no time for this), it is not uncommon to notice "your predecessor's" intrusion traces while you break through systems, "plant flags", change screen backgrounds [for the admins to notice that you've been there...], etc.
Let's think what this situation really means? Here are the choices I see:
- Nobody discovered the hole - a law of large numbers (aka "dumb luck") have "shielded" the company from an incident. Yes, Virginia, dumb luck IS a security strategy for some companies... AND it works for them.
- It was discovered, but not used/abused by the attacker - maybe he was busy hacking other systems, or saved this for later and never came back due to his ADD. Congratulation, you win! The immense power of dumb luck wrapped you in a protective "security" blanket ... again :-)
- It was discovered; the attacker went in, looked around and compromised a few others systems, but found nothing of interest (no low hanging fruits) - and he was not a bot herder. Again, you win. Next time you are in Vegas, bet on "00."
- It was discovered; the attacker went in and deployed a bot on "your" system - given how many botnets are there, this situation is clearly acceptable to many organizations. In this case, dumb luck strategy, apparently, still work: so they use your box to spam and phish somebody else ... big deal!
- It was discovered; the attacker went in and stole all your credit card information (it is now for sale) - even in this case, the user of "the dumb luck strategy" still "wins" (in some perverse sense)! Unless and until the stolen information IS tracked back to you OR a friendly neighborhood PCI auditor come and jams a broomstick up your ..., you can still continue to be stupid at your leisure and ignore basic security practices.
- It was discovered; the attacker went in and stole your CEO's Inbox, including the email related to his affair (it is now on CNN) - now, in this case, you lose AND it is time to stop being stupid! Welcome to the "0wned world." Time to launch (relaunch?) your security program and get serious.
What does this teach us about RISK? The lesson here is important:
- For a security professional, an Internet-exposed system with "root/root" is an obvious HUGE risk!
- For your boss's boss's boss, it is NOT!
This is exactly why I think that the most critical problem in security today is METRICS. Metrics that a) work AND mean something to decision makers and b) can be clearly communicated to said decision makers [BTW, a) and b) are two separate problems.] Metrics that cover not only threats and vulnerabilities we face, but also the effectiveness of security countermeasures we deploy. Metrics you can act on - and ones your boss (and his boss) will act on. Metrics that lead to correct decisions about which risks to accept, which to mitigate (all while knowing with what efficiency such mitigation occurs) and which to transfer.
Until that time, the dreaded "C-word" (compliance) will trump "the other C-word" (common sense) as a driver for security ... and we will continue to live in the "0wned world."
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Wednesday, September 17, 2008
One More Thing About GOVCERT.NL 2008
I am [well, I was :-) when I create it] flying back from GOVCERT.NL 2008 and lemme tell you! I have not ever seen a security conference which were THAT well-organized. Really! Everything just worked. Keynotes (first, second) were - gasp! - fun and useful (take that, RSA! :-))
My presentation was "Logging for Incident Response and Forensics: Key Issues" and I promise to post it online (here). BTW, if you attended the presentation, feel free to send the questions direct to me (since I didn't have time to answer them all at the end)
Tuesday, September 16, 2008
Google Docs 0-day?
Live Blogging from GOVCERT.NL 2008 - Marchus Sachs Speaking
If the world weren't already 0wned due to bad software (see my account of the previous presentation), Marchus talks about how "0wning your supplier to 0wn you" will become more popular. Infected disk drives, picture frames, GPS units (!), laptops, USB keys, MP3 players, etc are a sign of it; the public one, that is. Real "pre-0wned" stuff is the stuff you never see ALL THE WHILE it gets incorporated into our critical systems (like the fake Cisco routers - this one somehow sounds very ominous to me...)
BTW, the one I have not heard is one about Apple iPods being shipped infected with Windows-based malware :-) WTH?
I also love his example of a chewing gum AND a USB stick lying on the floor.
Will you pick a stick of gum and stick it in your mouth? Ewwwgh...
How about a USB stick? Hmm...
So, will RBN (or its tomorrow's equivalent) go into a business of partnering with a fake MP3 player manufacturer AND produce players "pre-0wned" with custom malware? Just an idea ... "RBN-branded MP3 player" to make money two ways.
How do you solve this? More lawsuits?
Live Blogging from GOVCERT.NL 2008 - David Rice Speaking
The message is the same: cybercrime is due to bad software; market motivates people to create bad software ("don't worry - be crappy" idea); market will fail to create secure software, etc.
Result? The 0wned world.
So, how to you make insecure software MORE expensive to create than secure software? Laws? Insurance? What else will help? Only time will tell...
Monday, September 15, 2008
Fun Reading on Logs and Log Management - 2
I am amazed (no, AMAZED!) about how many people now write about logs; it is definitely not "the original logging evangelist" anymore :-) Here is a bunch of good log-related reading, useful for those struggling with logs (aka "everybody" :-))
- Our brilliant field engineer Dimitri McKay talks about the eternal topic of converting Windows event logs to syslog. Yes, Eric, we ALL know it is ugly, but that is the only way that actually works well across all systems ...
- More on Windows and syslog: "Syslog ... 20 Years Later." BTW, this is really not about syslog, but about Vista/2k8 finally getting an ability to natively centralize the event logs via event subscriptions ("It's only about twenty years behind schedule, if you're counting.")
- Two fun pieces on correlation: 1 and 2. What often kills "a log correlation project"? "Whoever had worked on it had not had much time available to learn the way to properly configure the software" (from this) and "correlation only really works when backed up by real data about what is the biggest problem in your environment, and how that problem manifests itself in the event logs." (from this) None of this is new, but a useful reminder nonetheless
- Fun LogLogic podcast is here. The topic of this high-level discussion (CEO) is related to operational use for logs. I did one with them too; on logs and virtualization (will be up soon)
- A couple of good posts on logging from Nemertes Research: "Sharpening Stones and Walking on Coals", "Search or Destroy"
- Reminder about a few useful Windows Vista and 2k8 events: 4802 (screensaver engaged) and 4803 (screensaver dismissed)
- One person is wondering about the usefulness of logging after "experiencing" Linux auditd logging (kernel audit): "Logs are like a warm blanket; verbose logging means you can know what's happening on your systems if you keep up with the logs. At the same time, logs become a burden very very easily, and they are easy to ignore." This post is a must read for us logging afficionados; producing too much log data is a sure way to make people hate you...
- This also follows the same theme: people doubting the god-like power of logs :-) "So for an administrator to not care about logs was a shock." But would I argue that "log management is NOT a pain?" Now, would I? :-)
- A classic about logging for application developers: "Building Secure Applications: Consistent Logging." I am noticing a lot more discussions about logging in a developer community, e.g. see this and this (the latter, BTW, contains a lot of info on "why log" for developers). Overall, "getting logging right" is important (and will get more important in the future) and people need something NOW and cannot wait for the standards. BTW, I am planning a mini-crusade on how to train application developers to include useful logging in their applications...
- Finally, the "Is SIEM dead?" theme is continued in this fun post "Life after SIEM. Situational Awareness is next." Indeed, context is key for logs. BTW, if somebody mentions that I have "vendor bias", I will kick your ass! :-)
Enjoy!
Possibly related posts:Presenting at GOVCERT.NL 2008
Wednesday, September 10, 2008
Second ROI War
Another day, another security ROI blogwar.
- "Schneier on Security ROI": "It's a good idea in theory, but it's mostly bunk in practice." and "The term just doesn't make sense in this context."
- Richards adds to it: "Schneier Agrees: Security ROI is "Mostly Bunk""
- "Security ROI - The debate continues": "ROI ... reared its ugly head."
- "FOI, Failure of Investment": "Not that you asked, but IMHO: ROI and TCO are SWAG at best. And, they are rarely at their best." The secret weapon of ROI war - FOI - is thus unleashed!
- "Yet more evidence: your CISO needs an MBA" - a very good view of ROI as "comparison tool", nothing else.
- "Can you get ROI from reduced costs?" - a key missing piece for "ROI puzzle", so-called 'return in the form of savings' is finally (!?) clarified by Pete Lindstrom.
- This is also very relevant :-)
Overall, I love it when educated peoples' debate just falls waaaay down to the level of "I won't care what YOU call it as long as you don't care what I call it...." Yuck! :-)
All security ROI coverage is tagged here: http://delicious.com/anton18/ROI. The previous, "First ROI War", is summarized here.
If This Isn't 'Semantic Hacking', I Don't Know What Is...
Think about it...
Worms? RBN? Bots? Rootkits? DLP? NAC? For kids.